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		<title>Comment on Is Foam Board Insulation Strong Enough To Be Placed Over Floor Joists And Then Install A Floor Over It? by Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Foam Brd??  I assume you mean Extruded Polystirene also called Ridged Insolation?
I would be concerned with the tractor breaking through the floor. Sandwhitching insolation for a floor is usually a bad idea because with the weight it will compress. Suddenly you will notice that your shed feels unstable or spungie. If you were to go with idea two i would recommend you consider using 3/4 or better for the top of the sandwitch. 
Personally, I&#039;d Build skids. ( Heavy 2x6 pcs on edge to act as a foundation and to facilitate moving the shead later.) Than i would build the floor frame seperatly. After 3-4-5 ing it( A method of squaring a structure using pathagiras) i&#039;d screw 1/2 ply over the whole thing . Than flip the floor frame plywood down onto the skids. ( doing this you can insolate with cheeper Batt insolation giving a better R value and solving your rodent problem. )  After insolation you can screw your floor down. ( I still suggest 3/4 ply. 1/2 is a little weak. ) From here you can go on with framing walls than fastining them directly to the plywood floor. ( Trying to hit joists of course.) And just cut out the bottom plate from the doorway after the roof is on.  ( I diddnt understand how you were goina fasten the bottom plate to the floor frame. ) 
The problem with this though is that your shead will be a 1&#039; 1-1/4&#039;&#039; off the ground. ( 2x6 skid plus 1/2 ply plus 2x6 floor joist plus 3/4 ply.) You would need a ramp for your tractor. 
May i also suggest a window. It&#039;ll get freakishly hot in the summer.  I&#039;d talk to window manufacturers. They may have ones that they ordered the wrong size for and therefore may sell cheap. Hope some of this helps...  Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Foam Brd??  I assume you mean Extruded Polystirene also called Ridged Insolation?<br />
I would be concerned with the tractor breaking through the floor. Sandwhitching insolation for a floor is usually a bad idea because with the weight it will compress. Suddenly you will notice that your shed feels unstable or spungie. If you were to go with idea two i would recommend you consider using 3/4 or better for the top of the sandwitch.<br />
Personally, I&#8217;d Build skids. ( Heavy 2&#215;6 pcs on edge to act as a foundation and to facilitate moving the shead later.) Than i would build the floor frame seperatly. After 3-4-5 ing it( A method of squaring a structure using pathagiras) i&#8217;d screw 1/2 ply over the whole thing . Than flip the floor frame plywood down onto the skids. ( doing this you can insolate with cheeper Batt insolation giving a better R value and solving your rodent problem. )  After insolation you can screw your floor down. ( I still suggest 3/4 ply. 1/2 is a little weak. ) From here you can go on with framing walls than fastining them directly to the plywood floor. ( Trying to hit joists of course.) And just cut out the bottom plate from the doorway after the roof is on.  ( I diddnt understand how you were goina fasten the bottom plate to the floor frame. )<br />
The problem with this though is that your shead will be a 1&#8242; 1-1/4&#8221; off the ground. ( 2&#215;6 skid plus 1/2 ply plus 2&#215;6 floor joist plus 3/4 ply.) You would need a ramp for your tractor.<br />
May i also suggest a window. It&#8217;ll get freakishly hot in the summer.  I&#8217;d talk to window manufacturers. They may have ones that they ordered the wrong size for and therefore may sell cheap. Hope some of this helps&#8230;  Good luck.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Foam Board Insulation Strong Enough To Be Placed Over Floor Joists And Then Install A Floor Over It? by chicagir</title>
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		<dc:creator>chicagir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 04:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First put a layer of gravel down.Lay some 30lb roofing felt on top of the gravel and build your platform on top of it. Use paper faced insulation with the paper on top of the floor joists and then put your plywood floor. Now you can construct your walls.
Just make sure the water drains away from the shed. Adding the gravel will elevate the shed from the original ground. You can even dig some earth away from the perimeter for drainage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First put a layer of gravel down.Lay some 30lb roofing felt on top of the gravel and build your platform on top of it. Use paper faced insulation with the paper on top of the floor joists and then put your plywood floor. Now you can construct your walls.<br />
Just make sure the water drains away from the shed. Adding the gravel will elevate the shed from the original ground. You can even dig some earth away from the perimeter for drainage.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Foam Board Insulation Strong Enough To Be Placed Over Floor Joists And Then Install A Floor Over It? by 80's kid</title>
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		<dc:creator>80's kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 21:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No way dude!  The foam will give too much and begin to deteriorate from the movement of the floor and weight of the floor and everthing on top of it overtime.  There&#039;s a few ways you may want to otherwise try.  1 is to put the plywood down, then get under the floor if you have room and make strips of foam insulation, and simply staple these strips from under the floor between each joist.
Now there is another very thin stype of foam insulation thats like 1/4&quot; or so, and comes in rolls.  That I would say you could staple to the bottom of the plywood, then put the plywood down.  Its so thin that it will give a little insulation, but won&#039;t bind up at each joist.  When you screw down the floor or nail it down, it will simply crush at the joists and lay flat.
PS - its a good idea to buy a decent quality tarp, and stake it into the ground under the entire floor of the shed.  This keeps a moisture barrier from the ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No way dude!  The foam will give too much and begin to deteriorate from the movement of the floor and weight of the floor and everthing on top of it overtime.  There&#8217;s a few ways you may want to otherwise try.  1 is to put the plywood down, then get under the floor if you have room and make strips of foam insulation, and simply staple these strips from under the floor between each joist.<br />
Now there is another very thin stype of foam insulation thats like 1/4&#8243; or so, and comes in rolls.  That I would say you could staple to the bottom of the plywood, then put the plywood down.  Its so thin that it will give a little insulation, but won&#8217;t bind up at each joist.  When you screw down the floor or nail it down, it will simply crush at the joists and lay flat.<br />
PS &#8211; its a good idea to buy a decent quality tarp, and stake it into the ground under the entire floor of the shed.  This keeps a moisture barrier from the ground.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I Have Wanted A Cat For Ages, But My Family Don&#8217;t&#8230;? by Shanelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shanelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 21:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beg and say let me have it for 1-2 week and if you can&#039;t take care or be there for its needs u will give it away or take it back!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beg and say let me have it for 1-2 week and if you can&#8217;t take care or be there for its needs u will give it away or take it back!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Foam Board Insulation Strong Enough To Be Placed Over Floor Joists And Then Install A Floor Over It? by Fraz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fraz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That may work but probably not, one thing for sure, the plywood floor will settle in spots and over time because the foam board is not dense enough to support it well. They do make a roof system that sandwiches foam between 2 layers of plywood, but again they use a denser foam that is stronger than what you can buy in sheets in the store (a roof needs to support a lot of weight due to heavy snows). Foam does work much better than fiberglass to keep the cold out too. You&#039;re on the right track but there is 2 changes to make.
1. Once the floor joists are in place cut the foam to fit between the joists, gluing them along the edges of the foam to the sides of the joists. Be sure to get the right glue for the foam, not all construction glues will work with foam, read the back label. A sharp kitchen knife works best for cutting foam and fiberglass insulation too.
2. Put down the plywood sub-floor before you build the walls, it&#039;s called platform framing and that&#039;s how it&#039;s down now. You want that bottom 2x4 plate to be above the plywood, you may need it for nailing baseboard trim &amp;/or shoe molding later on too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That may work but probably not, one thing for sure, the plywood floor will settle in spots and over time because the foam board is not dense enough to support it well. They do make a roof system that sandwiches foam between 2 layers of plywood, but again they use a denser foam that is stronger than what you can buy in sheets in the store (a roof needs to support a lot of weight due to heavy snows). Foam does work much better than fiberglass to keep the cold out too. You&#8217;re on the right track but there is 2 changes to make.<br />
1. Once the floor joists are in place cut the foam to fit between the joists, gluing them along the edges of the foam to the sides of the joists. Be sure to get the right glue for the foam, not all construction glues will work with foam, read the back label. A sharp kitchen knife works best for cutting foam and fiberglass insulation too.<br />
2. Put down the plywood sub-floor before you build the walls, it&#8217;s called platform framing and that&#8217;s how it&#8217;s down now. You want that bottom 2&#215;4 plate to be above the plywood, you may need it for nailing baseboard trim &#038;/or shoe molding later on too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Anyone Else Super Exhausted After Last Night? by you mad? rofl</title>
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		<dc:creator>you mad? rofl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh this is great !! lmfao
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh this is great !! lmfao<br />
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a feeling the clone trolls were out today...that why I took my real pic down, lol.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you can&#039;t have the cat live in the home with your family....as part of your family you should not have a cat - its not fair to the cat to live in a shed - regardless of the shed&#039;s size.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you can&#8217;t have the cat live in the home with your family&#8230;.as part of your family you should not have a cat &#8211; its not fair to the cat to live in a shed &#8211; regardless of the shed&#8217;s size.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Foam Board Insulation Strong Enough To Be Placed Over Floor Joists And Then Install A Floor Over It? by Dan B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 12:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The site below says you can sandwich rigid foam between a plywood sub-floor and a cement board upper layer.  Similar to your plan except you need to support the foam board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The site below says you can sandwich rigid foam between a plywood sub-floor and a cement board upper layer.  Similar to your plan except you need to support the foam board.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Anyone Else Super Exhausted After Last Night? by perc</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lame</description>
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